A healthcare conversation among nurses

Re: Health Care: The Ticking Time Bomb

Originally Posted by tewdles

welfare–noun - the good fortune, health, happiness, prosperity, etc., of a person, group, or organization; well-being

I would respectfully submit that our constitution does address this "right"

My Response:  LOL, so what do we do about all the unhappy people, force them to take valium? What about those with who lose in Vegas, they certainly do not have good fortune. I say they should get all of their money back double, on me and my tax dollar.

Since you etc.'ed some of the words in your definition of welfare I have posted the definition again. Welfare- well-being, health, comfort, security, safety, protection, prosperity, success, fortune; interest, good.

Do you really think that taxpayers should pay for the government to provide all of these things or only the ones you select? Can the government assure prosperity for all? On whose dime?

The constitution specifically states "general welfare" not the welfare of each and every person. So, knowing that only 18% of the population is without healthcare coverage, and knowing that only about 14% of those are naturalized citizens (from National Coalition on Health Care), I offer that implementing the proposed health care initiatives negatively affects the prosperity of many more people than it helps, health wise. Since the constitution allows for the "general welfare" of the people not the specific welfare of the minority, this proposal is unconstitutional.

Thomas Jefferson writing on the portion of the constitution to which you refer.
http://press-pubs.uchicago.edu/found...a1_8_1s25.html


An Immoral Co-dependance - the Church in America

The US Christian “tolerance” doctrine, which posits that one must accept and tolerate everyone no matter what they do, is a lie used by satan to destroy the Christian church. Firstly, Jesus roared through the temple and turned over the tables of the money lenders. He did not look at them and say, “Whatever you do is okay because I will love you anyway.” He did not say, “Well, as long as you love God then you keep on doing what you want.” He said “It is written...my house will be called a house of prayer, but you are making it a den of robbers” and then he tore it up! The idea that we must accept everyone no matter what they do sort of makes us into our own gods. It is we who decide who gets forgiveness, it is we who decide what is sin and what is not sin. God’s law, which Jesus came to fulfill, becomes irrelevant. Christians find personal forgiveness in God through Jesus by the grace of God but with this new American pseudo christianity, we are the forgivers and the forgetters that God always was. We are told forgive and forget even though the sinners have not asked for it, even though they do not accept their immoral acts as sinful and since they don’t think it is sinful than neither should we. It is like a whole big step is skipped and God is not even a part of the equation. Their immoral acts become simply lifestyles and God’s word regarding sin becomes disconnected from many American churches today. By accepting and allowing whatever the people want, the church is becoming a part of the disintegration of America.